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"BIONOIA" The Mystery of Plum Island: Nazis, Ticks and Weapons of Mass Infection
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"BIONOIA"
The Mystery of Plum Island: Nazis, Ticks and Weapons of Mass
Infection
by Mark Sanborne
In Part 2 of this series, which ran in our February issue, journalist
and researcher Mark Sanborne looked back at how the US, which now
hypes the threat of "bio-terrorism" to justify gutting the Biological
Weapons Convention, has actually spearheaded the development of
biological weapons-and their use against civilian populations. In
this
new installment, Sanborne explores the possibility that unusual
outbreaks of exotic diseases within the United States have been
linked
to the Pentagon's bio-warfare experiments-including some overseen by
former Nazis. The closing installments will explore the survival of
the secretive Cold War biowar apparatus in both the US and Russia,
and
its links to the new wave of biological threats.
If covert elements of the U.S. government have indeed been bombarding
Cuba for over four decades with diseases aimed primarily at animals
and crops, as discussed in Part 2 of this series, where might such
bioagents have been developed? One likely suspect is Plum Island, the
site where, during the early years of the Cold War, germs and viruses
that could be used to wipe out Soviet livestock were cultivated.
Located less than two miles off the North Fork of Long Island and
only
six miles from Connecticut, the 840-acre Plum Island Animal Disease
Center was established after World War II. Initially run by the Army,
the facility was put under nominal control of the U.S. Department of
Agriculture (USDA) in the 1950s.
The PIADC was dubbed "the safest lab in the world" and tasked with
studying diseases that could threaten the nation's livestock-which it
did, effectively. But from the beginning Plum Island also played a
key
role in the U.S. biowarfare program and shared close ties with Fort
Detrick, MD, the Army's biowar HQ.
This long-suspected nexus was confirmed in Cold War records
declassified in 1993. According to the documents, when calling for a
major biowarfare test in the early 1950s, the Joint Chiefs of Staff
stated: "Steps should be taken to make certain adequate facilities
are
available, including those at Fort Detrick, Dugway Proving Ground
[Utah], Fort Terry [Plum Island] and an island testing area." ("Plum
Island's shadowy past: Once-secret documents reveal lab's mission was
germ warfare," Newsday, Nov. 21, 1993.)
"In many cases there were only maybe five people who knew what was
going on in weapons research [at Plum Island]. People in one lab
didn't know what happened in the next lab, and they didn't ask," said
Norman Covert, the aptly named base historian at Fort Detrick.
AGAIN WITH THE NAZIS?
And just to make it officially nefarious: it turns out Plum Island
has
Nazi connections. Former U.S. Justice Department prosecutor and Nazi-
hunter John Loftus wrote his 1982 book The Belarus Secret: "Even more
disturbing are the records of the Nazi germ warfare scientists who
came to America. They experimented with poison ticks dropped from
planes to spread rare diseases. I have received some information
suggesting that the U.S. tested some of these poison ticks on the
Plum
Island artillery range off the coast of Connecticut during the early
1950s... Most of the germ warfare records have been shredded, but
there is a top secret U.S. document confirming that 'clandestine
attacks on crops and animals' took place at this time."
More recently, other details emerged in Lab 257: The Disturbing Story
of the Government's Secret Plum Island Germ Laboratory by Long Island
lawyer Michael Christopher Carroll, who spent six years researching
the topic. His explosive book actually prompted a lengthy article in
the New York Times ("Heaping More Dirt on Plum Island," Feb. 15,
2004). Though meant as a debunking-aside from Carroll, all seven
people interviewed were critics or skeptics-in the Times' perverse
tradition, a lot of interesting information was revealed to its
mainstream readers. But not all of the establishment took the party
line: Former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo endorsed the book as
"brilliant" and a "carefully researched, chilling expose of potential
catastrophe."
Most of the controversy centered around Carroll's informed
speculation
that Plum Island may have been the source of a series of epidemics
over the decades: outbreaks of Dutch duck plague that almost wiped
out
Long Island's duck industry in the 1960s, the insidious appearance
and
spread of Lyme disease in the 1970s and 1980s, a mystery infection
that killed most of the Long Island Sound's lobsters in 1999, and in
the same year the arrival of West Nile virus in the New York
metropolitan area, which claimed a number of lives and prompted
authorities to repeatedly spray the city with malathion. Allaying
potential public fears over such verboten ideas was a main reason the
Times devoted so many inches of newsprint to damage control; the
article mentioned the Nazi angle only in passing.
It turns out that the spiritual godfather of Plum Island was one Dr.
Erich Traub, a Nazi scientist with a fascinating history, according
to
Carroll's well-documented account. He spent the pre-war years in a
scientific fellowship at the Rockefeller Institute in Princeton,
N.J.,
studying bacteriology and virology, while still finding time to hang
out at Camp Sigfried, headquarters of the American Nazi movement in
Yaphank, Long Island, 30 miles west of Plum Island. He then took his
laboratory skills back to Germany where he eventually became chief of
Insel Riems, the Nazi's secret biological warfare lab located on an
island in the Baltic, supervising the testing of germ and viral
sprays
over occupied Russia, targeting cattle and reindeer, while reporting
directly to Heinrich Himmler.
After the war Traub worked briefly for the Soviets before escaping
into the embrace of Operation Paperclip, Washington's covert
employment program for useful Nazi scientists. As Werner von Braun
was
to rockets, Traub was to germs: He promptly went to work for the
Naval
Medical Research Institute and gave operational advice to the CIA and
the biowarriors at Fort Detrick. Indeed, his detailed description of
his work at Insel Riems probably helped inspire the selection of Plum
Island by the Army: both the German and U.S. facilities were situated
on islands where the prevailing winds blew (mostly) out to sea.
VECTOR ANALYSIS
Despite his exceedingly questionable history, Dr. Traub in fact was
twice asked to be director of Plum Island, including by the USDA. He
declined, but was known to have paid at least several official visits
there. He may very well have been one of the Nazi scientists cited by
Loftus who supervised the dropping of infected ticks from planes.
Which brings us to the question of vectors.
In the context of biowarfare and infectious disease generally, a
vector is an organism or agent that carries pathogens from one host
to
another. To attack an enemy's agriculture system, such intermediary
vectors aren't always needed: It's often enough to covertly disperse
a
pathogen directly on part of a crop and allow the infection to spread
from plant to plant, as anti-Castro agents apparently did in Cuba on
a
number of occasions. (The versatile U.S. attack reportedly has also
employed molds, fungi, insect infestations, and other minute pests
targeted at specific crops-all of which, of course, had to be grown
and tested somewhere first.)
However, it's not quite so simple to attack animal and human
populations, which are not stationary targets. Effective aerial
delivery of agents like anthrax or rabbit fever can be affected by
wind and weather, and is more likely to be detected as a deliberate
attack. (Though if it's sprayed on an army of protestors on the
Washington Mall, a possibility discussed in Part 1 -well, that's
apparently another story.)
On the other hand, employing such vectors as mosquitoes, fleas, lice,
and ticks to transmit diseases to targeted populations, while much
slower in effect, can spread a greater variety of infections much
more
widely while maintaining a degree of plausible deniability for the
attacker. Thus we should not be surprised that the fruits of Nazi and
Imperial Japanese research and development in this ugly field ended
up
in eager U.S. hands after the war.
RETURN TO CUBA
Which bring us to this: Carroll cites an internal 1978 USDA document
titled "African Swine Fever" obtained from an investigation by former
Long Island congressman Thomas Downey. It notes that in research at
Plum Island 1975 and 1976, "the adult stages of Abylomma americanum
and Abylomma cajunense were found to be incapable of harboring and
transmitting African swine fever virus." Translated, that means
scientists had tested the Lone Star tick and the Cayenne tick as
effective vectors for African swine flu and found them wanting.
A vector is generally thought to be a one-way affair. But while this
particular vector test failed, it also seems to point, paradoxically,
in two directions at once. One is back, once again, to Cuba. Note
that
Plum Island's research on suitable vectors for African swine fever
took place midway between unusual outbreaks of that disease in Cuba,
in 1971 and 1979-80, as discussed in Part 2. (And recall that its
appearance in Cuba was a first in the Western hemisphere.)
Perhaps the U.S. scientists were innocuously testing potential
vectors
that could spread the exotic flu to America's pork industry. Or
perhaps
-considering Plum Island's longstanding connections to Fort Detrick-
the tests were actually designed to find a new vector to transmit the
virus once again to Cuba, which coincidentally did suffer another
outbreak a few years later. In any event, whatever vector infected
Cuba's pigs with African swine fever in 1971 and 1979, it's safe to
say it wasn't the Lone Star or Cayenne ticks.
But is that the end of the infected tick story? Unfortunately, no.
Because the failed Plum Island vector test also points in another
possible direction, right back into the heart of what our political-
warrior class now likes to call the Homeland. And rather than riding
off ineffectually into the sunset, the Lone Star tick has gone on to
a
key supporting role in yet another biomystery.
THE PANDEMIC THAT DARE NOT SPEAK ITS NAME
In 1975, a strange disease broke out in Old Lyme, Connecticut, just
10
miles across Long Island Sound from Plum Island. Often initially
characterized by a red rash and swollen joints, it afflicted an
original cluster of 50 victims, many of them children, who were at
first misdiagnosed as having juvenile rheumatoid arthritis.
It turns out that "Lyme disease"-as it came to be called as cases
mounted and spread in the years that followed-is a devious, multi-
systemic, inflammatory syndrome that mimics other illnesses by
encompassing a range of afflictions, including chronic and crippling
pain and fatigue that untreated can spread to organs and the central
nervous system, causing depression, palsy, memory loss, psychosis,
and
even encephalitis and death.
Such severe outcomes might surprise many Americans, most of whom have
heard of Lyme disease but because of the current lack of media
attention probably think it's no big deal-unless they know someone
who
suffers from it. Well guess what? With a quarter century behind the
outbreak, Lyme is now the most common vector-borne infection in the
United States, and the most common tick-born illness in the world.
Yes, you heard that right.
After spreading out from "ground zero" in the Long Island Sound area,
as of mid-April 2006, a total of 267,779 domestic cases of Lyme in 49
states had been reported to the federal Centers for Disease Control.
Some experts estimate that, due to Lyme's confusing multiple
manifestations, at most only one in 10 cases are recognized and
reported to the CDC, so that the total number of victims could be
more
than 2.68 million. On top of that, a study predicts a one-third
increase in the number of cases per year in the U.S. over the 10-year
period from 2002 to 2012.
A TICK WITH A HISTORY
So what's going on? Where did this weird bug-which, leaving aside its
suspicious proximity to Plum Island, seemed to emerge from nowhere-
supposedly come from? Its history is intriguing. In 1982, National
Institutes of Health researcher Dr. Willy Burgdorfer isolated and
identified spirochetes (a form of bacteria) of the genus Borrelia
from
the gut of infected Ixodes scapularis (commonly known as deer ticks)
as the etiological agent of Lyme disease. It was dubbed Borrelia
burgdorferi (Bb), and the good doctor ruefully said of his discovery:
"It's a helluva bug, and I'm sorry my name is on it!"
However, while Burgdorfer was the first to isolate the insidious
spirochete (which animal studies suggest in some cases can worm its
way deep inside tendons, muscle, the heart and the brain inside a
week), earlier incarnations of the disease had been studied in Europe
since the late 19th century. By the 1930s, it was known to cause
neurological and psychiatric problems and the tiny Ixodes tick was
suggested as a vector. By mid-century doctors were using new
antibiotic treatments with some success.
But while the disease caused by the Bb bacteria was known in Europe,
it did not appear to constitute a major health problem. It was even
less of an issue on the other side of the Atlantic: Although Bb and
related bacterial strains are thought to have long been present in
North America, the only official case reported in the U.S. before the
Connecticut outbreak occurred in Wisconsin in 1970, when a hunter
became infected from a tick bite.
So what changed in the 1970s to kick-start what has since become a
pandemic, both here and in Europe? (Though the P-word is never used
in
reference to Lyme, as opposed to bird flu, which is still only a
potential pandemic.) Or are we to believe that Bb has been infecting
people all along but somehow it just wasn't being noticed? A similar
argument has been advanced by apologists for the medical-industrial
complex who maintain that the recent explosion of autism was simply
the result of better detection and recognition of the condition,
rather than being largely caused by mercury-laced vaccines, as many
now suspect.
THE INVADERS
Dr. Alan G. Barbour, who worked closely with Burgdorfer in the
identification of Bb, co-wrote an article with Durland Fish in 1993
that made an interesting case for how the modern outbreak of Lyme
disease may have occurred. They suggested that Bb infections were a
fact of life in early American history that went largely unnoticed
amid the harshness of frontier life:
"The generally benign nature [!] of acute B. burgdorferi infection
relative to the debilitating and fatal effects of diseases plaguing
North Americans through the 19th century may have contributed to its
obscurity until a cluster of cases of childhood arthritis first
brought it to wider attention on this continent. The ecological
changes in the northeastern and midwestern United States during this
century are responsible for the recent emergence of Lyme disease as a
public health problem."
They argue that mass deforestation of the Northeast due to the
clearing of land for agriculture and settlement in the 19th and early
20th century resulted in a collapse of white-tailed deer populations,
the primary carriers of the I. scapularis tick, and hence the tick
itself became too scarce to infect people with Bb. The authors
further
theorize that Long Island served as a refuge for relict populations
of
deer in the area. Then, as land-use patterns changed in the latter
half of the 20th century, woodlands and forests recovered in the
Northeast, along with deer and deer ticks:
"The invasion by I. scapularis of the increasingly reforested
mainland
from island refuges initiated the current epidemic of Lyme disease in
the Northeast ... There is evidence that several independent mainland
invasions [mainly from Long Island] by I. scapularis took place,
resulting in early Lyme disease foci in central New Jersey, mainland
Westchester County, N.Y., southeastern Connecticut, and eastern
Massachusetts."
So science seems clear on the fact that Long Island was the source of
the modern outbreak of Lyme disease, but the devil is in the details.
The key problem with Barbour and Fish's scenario is that it treats
pre-1975 Long Island like some kind of lost world, an offshore
wilderness Eden where remnant deer lived free of human interaction.
In
fact, the island's deer population, concentrated in eastern Suffolk
County, has long lived close by people, many of whom were certainly
exposed to deer tick bites over the years. So why were there no
reports of the disease on Long Island in the decades before the
outbreak in Connecticut? And why, in the wake of that outbreak across
the Sound, did Suffolk County-home of Plum Island-quickly develop one
of the highest rates of Lyme disease in the country?
This writer grew up in western Suffolk County in the 1960s and '70s,
and spent plenty of time exploring the woods, and was bitten by
plenty
of ticks. But they were the types of tick you can easily see and feel
crawling on your skin, and thus usually could be picked off before
they began engorging themselves in earnest on one's blood.
Fortunately, there were no deer or deer ticks in my neck of the
woods.
So it came as quite a shock to learn in the late '70s of the sudden
existence, just a few dozen miles to the east, of infected ticks that
were almost invisible-literally the size of a pinhead-and had the
ability to make an unlucky hiker's life into a living hell. Our tiny
friend I. Scapularis is indeed the perfect covert agent: it does its
dirty work quickly and disappears before you know it's there, usually
leaving behind a telltale rash and a very questionable prognosis.
WOUND, DON'T KILL
Okay, enough beating around the real and metaphorical bushes. Is
there
any actual evidence that Lyme disease could be the outcome of
biological warfare research at Plum Island that, either accidentally
or otherwise, escaped into the outside world? In fact, the evidence
seems quite suggestive, especially when compared to the shaky logic
of
the official story.
Some might ask: Why would biowarriors be interested in studying a
disease agent like Borrelia burgdorferi that incapacitates but rarely
kills its victims? Actually, for all the attention focused on deadly
pathogens like anthrax, plague, and rabbit fever, the biowar
establishments of various powers have also long been interested in
agents that can slowly stricken and debilitate a civilian population.
The logic is brutally simple: just as a wounded soldier puts more
logistical strain on an army than a dead one does, gradually
sickening
a population places greater economic and social stress on a society
than simply killing a limited number of people with a more direct and
virulent attack. If the disease agent can be transmitted via a
"natural" vector like ticks or mosquitoes, providing plausible
deniability, and can confuse medical authorities by presenting a
broad
array of symptoms that mimic other conditions (Bb, like its more
famous relative syphilis, has been called the "Great Imitator"), then
so much the better.
Imperial Japan's infamous Unit 731 biowar outfit, discussed in Part
2,
reportedly conducted experiments with the Borelia genus, the results
of which likely fell into U.S. hands after the war. However, there is
no documentary evidence that indicates Plum Island researchers ever
worked with Bb -after all, it is primarily a disease of humans, not
animals. On the other hand, if the bacteria were being secretly
studied (or worse, "weaponized") at the lab and introduced to ticks
for vector tests, there are any number of ways tick-borne Bb could
have escaped to the mainland: from deer-which are able to swim to and
from the island-to birds, or even an inadvertently infected lab
worker. (Assuming, of course, it wasn't released on purpose as part
of
some sinister test.)
Since the Lyme outbreak, scientists claim to have documented the
presence of Bb in I. scapularis museum specimens collected in the
late
1940s from Shelter Island and other parts of Long Island close by
Plum
Island. This is presumed to be evidence that the spirochete was pre-
existing in the area and was not "engineered" in a lab in the 1970s.
But note that the period the tick specimens were collected is
suspiciously close to the time when Nazi scientists may have
"experimented with poison ticks dropped from planes to spread rare
diseases" at Plum Island.
GIVING NATURE A HAND
The question then arises: Are the unusual characteristics of Bb
solely
the result of natural evolutionary processes, or were they helped
along by the hand of man? Speaking more generally, here's what Col.
Oliver Fellowes, a founding father of Plum Island who was transferred
from Fort Detrick in 1952, had to say: "We were always looking for a
way to camouflage a strain so that it would be so difficult to detect
and identify that, by the time the enemy had done so, the disease
would have done the damage." (Unit 731 by Peter Williams and David
Wallace, Hodder & Stoughton, London, 1989.)
Wait, it gets better. On July 1, 1969, Dr. Donald MacArthur, director
of the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency, testified before a
subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee. He had this
exchange with Rep. Robert Sikes of Florida:
DR. MACARTHUR: There are two things about the biological agent field
I
would like to mention. One is the possibility of technology surprise.
Molecular biology is a field that is advancing very rapidly and
eminent biologists believe that within a period of five to 10 years
it
would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent
that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could
have been acquired.
REP. SIKES: Are we doing any work in that field?
DR. MACARTHUR: We are not.
REP. SIKES: Why not? Lack of money or lack of interest?
DR. MACARTHUR: Certainly not lack of interest.
MacArthur's chilling testimony can be seen as the Rosetta Stone of
bionoia, and will be discussed in greater detail in a later
installment. But we don't need it for confirmation that something
like
Lyme disease can be considered a biological warfare agent-we have it
straight from the source, namely the U.S. government. On Nov. 15,
2005, the Associated Press reported:
"A new research lab for bioterrorism opened Monday at the University
of Texas at San Antonio. The $10.6 million Margaret Batts Tobin
Laboratory Building will provide a 22,000-square-foot facility to
study such diseases as anthrax, tularemia, cholera, lyme disease,
desert valley fever and other parasitic and fungal diseases. The
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention identified these diseases
as potential bioterrorism agents."
That, it would seem, makes it official. Among those who took note of
this matter-of-fact admission was Dr. Virginia Sherr, who, in a
letter
to the editor published Nov. 22, 2005 in the online edition of the

Lancet medical journal, wrote:


"[The] concern is the overriding significance of an invisibilized but
nonetheless serious infection caused by an extraordinarily complex
neurotropic spirochete. Its pandemic is approaching severity that was
experienced throughout the world in the Spanish Flu of 1918. The
causative spirochete is, of course, less immediately fatal than was
the virus of that epidemic, but it is deadly, nonetheless, to the
human brain. The fact that the causative spirochete, B. burgdorferi,
is being studied as an agent of biowarfare in the USA adds impetus to
a need for quick education of most of the world's academic physicians
as to what has been sensed at the clinical level for a long time: we
are dealing here with a formidable 'smart stealth' type of bacteria
that is hard to eradicate-one that does extreme damage to psyche and
soma if not treated aggressively over the long term when missed in
the
first days following inoculation by the vector... Organized Medicine
has mostly ignored or deserted the field of neuro-Lyme's currently
immense proportions, internationally."
THE REVENGE OF TEXAS
Whither Plum Island? According an Aug. 28, 2005, story in Newsday,
"Plum Island's Future Up In The Air," the federal government plans to
replace the existing facility on the island with a more secure one or
relocate to a higher-security level research lab elsewhere by 2011.
"The Plum Island facility was built in the 1950s and is nearing the
end of its life cycle," according to the Deptartment of Homeland
Security. Glad to hear those guys are on the case.
Ah, but what about the Lone Star tick and its failed vector test back
in 1975? Aside from that curious coincidence with Cuba, the
documented
research also appears to have something to say about events much
closer to home. It demonstrates that Plum Island researchers were
infecting Abylomma americanum with various bioagents to see if they
could be successfully vectored to other species. (In this case pigs,
but swine are often used as stand-ins for humans in medical
experiments.)
That is a matter of some interest because, while the I. Scapularis
deer tick is the major vector for Lyme disease in the Northeast, the
Lone Star tick has also been found to be a carrier of spirochetes.
There is some debate about whether A. americanum can transmit Bb to
humans. Researchers say the tick carries a slightly different
bacteria
that they've dubbed Borrelia lonestari, which may or may not cause a
"new" Lyme-related ailment called Masters disease, identified in 1991
in Missouri.
The fact that two different ticks carry their own versions of an
unusual spirochete bio-agent is suspicious enough-designer bugs,
perhaps? (Check out this unintentional smoking gun in Barbour and
Fish's article: "The presence of spirochetes similar to B.
burgdorferi
in A. americanum in areas where competent vectors are absent is
inexplicable.") But here's the real kicker: The Lone Star is a warm-
weather tick that is prevalent in the Southeast and until recently
was
mostly unknown in the colder Northeast. Now it has reached as far
north as-you guessed it-Long Island, New Jersey, and Connecticut.
(Though perhaps the word should not be "reached" but "released.")
A. americanum now makes up 5% of the overall tick population in the
region, though there are greater concentrations in some areas than
others. (Researchers combing the woods in New Jersey have found 2,000
to 3,000 Lone Star ticks within one hour.) When did these little
devils start being noticed up here in large numbers? Yup: In the wake
of the outbreak of Lyme disease-though there are reports that the
initial invaders may have "arrived" as far back as the 1950s, just as
things were getting underway at Plum Island.
And yes, Abylomma americanum, as it's nickname suggests, has a
special
association with the Lone Star State. Another import from Texas that
the rest of the country probably could have done without.
RESOURCES:
Lyme Disease Foundation
http://www.lyme.org/
"The Biological and Social Phenomenon of Lyme Disease," Barbour and
Fish, Association for the Advancement of Science, June 1993
http://info.med.yale.edu/eph/vectorbio/fish/BarbourFish.pdf
Dr. Donald MacArthur, Congressional testimony, July 1, 1969
http://panindigan.tripod.com/aidsdodhear.html
See also:
"Bionoia," Pt. 2, WW4 REPORT #118
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Special to WORLD WAR 4 REPORT, May 1, 2006
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the 3rd Man
2007-05-08 17:21:46 UTC
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Post by Snappy
"BIONOIA"
The Mystery of Plum Island: Nazis, Ticks and Weapons of Mass
Infection
by Mark Sanborne
Blah-blah-blah-dee-freakin dah.

Yeah, we've never heard any of this stuff before...(unless a million
or so times counts).


LOOK...


...if you have been around this dungheap for awhile you sort of learn
to recognize some things...


...if you go around incessantly babbling about friggin Plum freaking
Island then:


You just might be:


1. A clueless NEWBIE;


2. Lisa. (same as #3, following);


3. Just plain crazy...a nutcase;


4. A "trojan horse" trying to infiltrate and "troll" while sucking up
and kissing behind a little too hard.


So which one(s) are you?


You claim to be a "professor"...of WHAT, exactly?


Oh...and WHAT were the "vicious attacks" that were launched on
"Tincup"?


Mind answering a few questions?


Or do you just point fingers and accuse?
Sewer Rat
2007-05-08 18:05:47 UTC
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Post by Snappy
"BIONOIA"
The Mystery of Plum Island: Nazis, Ticks and Weapons of Mass
Infection
by Mark Sanborne
<snip>

AGAIN Plum Island.. *yawn*

I thought you gonna post useful stuff here?
You are a professor of what?
Greatcod
2007-05-08 22:04:11 UTC
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What are your views, then, as to why, after 30 years, Lyme, a
neurological infection which inevitably becomes debilitating if not
treated very early, has not been taken seriously by the lords of
mainstream medicine?
Sewer Rat
2007-05-09 00:05:50 UTC
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Post by Greatcod
What are your views, then, as to why, after 30 years, Lyme, a
neurological infection which inevitably becomes debilitating if not
treated very early, has not been taken seriously by the lords of
mainstream medicine?
Partly thanks to the incompetent Lyme activists and so-called LLMDs who
make us all look like loons. And the failure of ILADS not to forget. And
we are STILL waiting for the publication of the Fallon study!

Hopefully things will work out better in Europe.
the 3rd Man
2007-05-09 02:43:53 UTC
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Post by Greatcod
What are your views, then, as to why, after 30 years, Lyme, a
neurological infection which inevitably becomes debilitating if not
treated very early, has not been taken seriously by the lords of
mainstream medicine?
Oh come on, Cod...you have been around awhile (and don't try to change
the subject)...you know the name of this tune...

...here we go again...somebody just plain LIES and demonizes other
Lyme patients and some of the idiot LymeNUTS get all Lynch-mobby and
excited...and can't wait to take it out on some punching bag.

Look at what was said by this "snappy", "snapcrackle" person...that
people at sci.med (she mentions me and Sewer Rat) were "mildly
threatening" Tincup and launching "vicious attacks".

And is that even remotely true?

Hell, I was even AGREEING with her...

And apparently, no one over at LymeNUT cares to even find
out...especially Tincup.

But when...are any of these people going to stop SMEARING people that
they disagree with?

It appears to be a very cheap and deliberate tactic.

People who are attacking other patients like this and thinking that
the ends justify the means are just flatass WRONG.

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